I am torn on these. They look so dope. They're built so well. They're not as good as they should be though. I'd still rate them highly and wouldn't suggest to not buy them nor do I regret them. I have over 800 miles on these both on and off road and I'm not a pro, but I'm not a slow rider on trails or one who struggles on technical terrain. All I can do is offer my honest opinion on these and let you make of it what you will.

My beef with these is that to get the most out of them you will need a tilt kit. Said tilt kit, is unobtainium. Said tilt kit, is not included in the $500 price tag of these rails. Said tilt kit, if available, is $170+ meaning you NEED to ask yourself, could these actually be worth ~$700 to you in the long run. The reality is you will have to run these in custom as I'm sure most people already know. The problem there is that custom doesn't account for all of the variables that the default modes are tuned according to.

If you're going very slow to slalom cones in a parking lot for example, Mission will allow the board to be loose as far as carveability beneath a certain speed and/or at certain nose or tail angles and then will ramp up or decrease aggressiveness accordingly pulling you up and out of a nose or tail down posture. So, say you go to turn really tight around a light pole at a crosswalk and it will let the board drop into the turn and hold that line. On custom it's super rigid attempting to do the same thing. Either you can have the board drop into turns and then scrape the nose if you tighten the turn, or you can have the board be aggressive enough to push you through the turn fast but you cannot have both. This is with 3° added to the nose in custom settings and I won't even get into if you try to ride switch (your tail end will be pointed at the stars above you).

Sorry, I know it's wordy but after all these miles and swapping back and forth several times to dial in my custom modes this is what I'm left with. It's worth mentioning how when you drop beneath a certain speed the nose lowers regardless of your custom settings. This is not the same as when you start from a dead (because yeah, the nose is 3° low then until you get going as well) but this is just cruising at say less than 2-3mph. This hurts you on trails especially when you have to start on an incline and there's a root or rock nearby. You need to lean to gain speed to bonk or de-weight over the root right? Except you can't because your nose is barely off the ground because you're going so slow, plus you're on an incline, plus you’re in a low speed - high torque situation so you'll easily overload the board and the nose will drop.

Having said all of that, the look is so epic and the lowered center of gravity is real. You do sit in the board instead of on it and it really keeps you planted through corners on and off trail. The extra tail clearance is nice too for downhills and drops. The machining is excellent, the anodizing is very good and the tolerances are very tight. I like them a lot, I'd love them with a tilt kit and if I ever get one I'll happily update this review. But as it is now, for these or the new Varials as far as "W's" go, I just don't think the value is where it ought to be. The pro's are strong but without a tilt kit so are the con's. I’d still recommend them, for what they’re good at, I just wish I could test them in their intended form.

These rails are great! It’s like your board become a part of your body, it moves with you. I love them!

These homebrew rails are absolute game changers. If you ride hard, these are an absolute must. The reinforced threads mean no more stripped rail problems again. The board feels much more solid and is quieter due to the tighter tolerances on these rails. These are what the stock rails should have been

If you’re thinking about it, do it!

You can ask all the questions you want and they will reply super fast. Ordered a Growler conversion kit from the Netherlands and received it within 10 days. Only had to pay 10 euro in import tax.

Super easy and fun build.

Great